Conservative Leader of Canada Pierre Poilievre joins Dr. Jordan Peterson on his Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, released Monday, to discuss his candidacy and some of the issues driving the campaign, including housing and inflation, defunding the CBC and Liberty Motorsports last winter , the protests have paralyzed Ottawa for weeks.
Poilievre reiterated his support for peaceful protesters who had gathered in the country’s capital, saying vaccine mandates for truckers were “unscientific and malicious” and that “this was never about medical science, it was about political science. This is Demonizing a small group of people for political gain, and I’m proud of the fact that people came forward and fought for their freedom in this situation.”
To prevent future imposition of civil liberties, Poilievre promises re-examination emergency law:
“I’m working with legal scholars on how to cut power and limit use emergency law In the future. I want to be very careful because it’s a very blunt tool – in a war or a foreign attack or something like that, you can see why these powers might be needed at times – but I do think we need to change the bill to Prevent it from being misused for such political purposes again. “
Contrary to the fact that the first official CCP leadership debate banned candidates from speaking the name of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, here Poliyev took the opportunity to forcibly condemn Trudeau, calling him an “egotistical” and “objectively”. unwelcome”.
Trudeau isn’t the only politician to be criticized, with Polyyev also taking aim at Environment and Climate Change Minister Steven Gilbeau, calling him “crazy” and “completely crazy.” Peterson, in turn, described NDP leader Jagmeet Singh as “appalling and very lacking in ideas, and I haven’t seen any nonsense from the federal government that the NDP hasn’t woken up to.”
Poilievre also laid out many of the messages that drew large crowds to his rallies, including the importance of removing gatekeepers and increasing freedom, commenting that the gap between “the poor and owning a yacht” is growing.
Summing up his leadership motivations, he contrasts his message as one of hope for Canadians of all classes, but especially workers left behind:
“What troubles me most about Canadian politics is having a comfortable institution that comes first and runs for itself in the interests of other people, and the people who work for the country — plumbers, electricians, truck drivers, police officers — Hardly a voice. I want to empower these people and disempower the political establishment. This is my mission, this is my goal, and I believe in it. I really believe what I say. I really believe what I put forward The idea and the political approach are right. So with this goal, I can persevere through all the filth and exhaustion of political life.”
Also on the front line is the CBC, with Poilievre re-promising that if he were to become prime minister, he would again defund the CBC. He said he was not concerned about the backlash from mainstream Canadian media, which he claimed was equally unfair to his Conservative predecessors, even though they did not directly challenge the CBC.
“Yes, they’ll come after me after I shoot, I know,” he said, “but they’ll do that even if I don’t take a principled stand.”
An appearance on Peterson’s podcast may suggest that Poilievre is bypassing traditional media outlets, preferring to bypass “left-wing media,” as he described it in his first leadership debate. So far, his media strategy has prioritized non-traditional, direct conversations to attract voters, such as a March 29 video from Tahini Mediterranean Cuisine’s YouTube channel in which Poilievre smokes a hookah and discusses bitcoin.
Peterson’s podcast is a platform with even more reach than traditional news channels. Peterson’s YouTube page has nearly 5 million subscribers, and his videos have averaged over 500,000 views. By midday Tuesday, Poilievre’s interview had more than 200,000 views.
Peterson, dubbed “one of the world’s leading public intellectuals” by Tyler Cowan and “the most influential public intellectual in the Western world” by David Brooks, rose to prominence for his opposition to federal Bill C-16. He objected, on the grounds that it legislates to force speech.
While Peterson is generally not involved in Canadian politics beyond his youthful flirting with the Alberta NDP, Peterson did interview Canadian People’s Party leader Maxime Bernier during the last federal election campaign.
Speaking to Poilievre, Peterson praised his courage in agreeing to an interview:
“I’ve asked other politicians, including some conservatives, and some have agreed to talk to me, but in general they seem to be intimidated by the time span that’s in front of them. Maybe, [they’re] Not fully realizing the power of YouTube conversations. “
Peterson has become increasingly critical of Trudeau’s vaccine mission and his recent handling of the Freedom Motorcade protests, calling him a liar and a narcissist in a May 9 Hoover Institution interview. On February 19, Peterson released an original song, “Wake Up,” which was “dedicated to the Honourable Justin Trudeau, Prime Minister of Canada, in these unfortunate circumstances.”
At the height of the protests on Jan. 31, Peterson took to Instagram to directly appeal to several conservative politicians, including Saskatchewan Premier Scott Mo, Alberta Premier Jason Ken Neal, Ontario Premier Doug Ford and then-opposition leader Erin O’Toole, and urged them to support the movement and rescind the vaccine mandate.
“What are you waiting for? This is your moment. With a large number of Canadians occupying Ottawa, we are disappointed to suspend our concession in the face of this so-called emergency,” Peterson said. “As far as I know, our prime minister has actually abandoned the city and ran away.”
He continued: “You don’t get a better chance. This is your moment, Canadian conservatives.”